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Misconceptions we have made or heard of

PostPosted: Fri Sep 02, 2011 11:02 am
by Sabrblade
Looking through the Misconceptions and urban legends about Transformers page on the TFWiki, I've been wondering what other misconceptions we as fans have made or heard of over the years.

I myself have made few, such as when I mistook both Machine Wars and RiD for G1 as a kid (as detailed here), but here's a new one for ya: I used to think that Cybertron was a character.

Back when Beast Wars was airing in the 90s, as I'd watch it, I'd often here the characters talking of something called "Cybertron". Since I did not know that it was their home planet, and since there were characters running around with names like "Megatron", "Tigatron", etc., I simply assumed that this "Cybertron" was also a character.

Though, the way they spoke of having to get "back to" Cybertron being of great importance, I assumed that that meant this Cybertron fellow was also someone important. Like an authority figure of some kind. But since both the Maximals and Predacons spoke of the urgency of reach Cybertron first, I figured that maybe this Cybertron was some kind of neutrally-aligned figure who would take the side of whichever team got to him and gained his favor first. Like, if the Maximals would reach him, they'd gain his favor and he'd help them destroy the Predacons. Or if the Preds got to him, they'd gain his favor and he'd help them crush the Maximals.

Now you may be asking me, "What about all the flashbacks and other scenes to Cybertron showing it to be their home planet?" Well, I simply took those scenes as showing their home, yes, but I did not make the connection of that place being called "Cybertron". I simply saw it more as just the place where the guy called Cybertron resided. Like his sanctuary or something.

So when Beast Wars ended and Beast Machines began, you can imagine my surprise when I saw that this "Cybertron" that they had been talking about all this time wasn't a person but a place. When the characters all left Earth in the Beast Wars finale, and then Beast Machines was announced, I was like, "Oh, cool! Now we might finally get to see who this Cybertron guy is!" BOY, was I wrong. :lol: :lol: :lol:

Though, thinking back on this, I guess it wasn't TOO off the mark for me to thought that, considering the whole aspect of Primus = Cybertron (and the TF: Cybertron cartoon making the planet be a character). Back then, I didn't know about Primus, so I guess what I thought back then about Cybertron could retroactively be considered a primitive concept of Primus that was completely unintentional and coincidental. :P


So, what about you? What misconceptions and false assumptions have you made or heard about the Transformers?

Re: Misconceptions we have made

PostPosted: Fri Sep 02, 2011 1:59 pm
by ironrod prime
well i dont have any personal misconseptions but id like to bring up two that i here alot

the first being the common believe that optimus primal and optimus prime are in fact the same character

and the other is just a minor bicker concerning energon constructicon maximus and the fact that some people assume his name is devistator maximus

Re: Misconceptions we have made

PostPosted: Sun Sep 04, 2011 1:01 pm
by Sabrblade
ironrod prime wrote:well i dont have any personal misconseptions but id like to bring up two that i here alot
Hmm, you make a good point. I've edited the first post to allow one's that we've heard of as well as ones that we've made.

ironrod prime wrote:the first being the common believe that optimus primal and optimus prime are in fact the same character
Ah yes, that one's a classic. Though, there is some leeway for it, since the original toy bios for their pre-Transmetal toys indicated that Primal and Megatron were the same as their G1 namesakes.

ironrod prime wrote:and the other is just a minor bicker concerning energon constructicon maximus and the fact that some people assume his name is devistator maximus
:lol: :lol: :lol:

Re: Misconceptions we have made or heard of

PostPosted: Sun Sep 04, 2011 3:39 pm
by Wing Saber
I started watching during Armada. Until Cybertron, I thought he was 'Octimus'

Re: Misconceptions we have made

PostPosted: Sun Sep 04, 2011 9:48 pm
by ironrod prime
Sabrblade wrote:
ironrod prime wrote:and the other is just a minor bicker concerning energon constructicon maximus and the fact that some people assume his name is devistator maximus
:lol: :lol: :lol:


i can understand why people would think that though seeing as how the other two were named superion and bruticus maximus

Re: Misconceptions we have made or heard of

PostPosted: Sun Sep 04, 2011 10:34 pm
by Sabrblade
Wing Saber wrote:I started watching during Armada. Until Cybertron, I thought he was 'Octimus'
You know, I think I thought that too for a while during Beast Wars season 1. Though, I think I pronouced a little harder like "Octomus". :lol:

ironrod prime wrote:
Sabrblade wrote:
ironrod prime wrote:and the other is just a minor bicker concerning energon constructicon maximus and the fact that some people assume his name is devistator maximus
:lol: :lol: :lol:


i can understand why people would think that though seeing as how the other two were named superion and bruticus maximus
Yeah, the real reason for the name "Constructicon" instead of "Devastator" was due to the dub/Hasbro trying to emulate his Japanese name in Super Link "Buildron" (which is what the Constructicons--and the RiD Build Team--were known as in Japan).

As for why the Japanese didn't originally call him "Devastor" (Devastator's Japanese name) to begin with, it's the same reason that Energon Downshift wasn't named "Wheeljack": The name was already taken by an Armada/Micron Densetsu character. Armada Scavenger was using the name "Devastor" in Japan, so the guy who would later be based directly off Devastator couldn't use the name.

Re: Misconceptions we have made or heard of

PostPosted: Mon Sep 05, 2011 12:08 am
by ironrod prime
that explains why he was rockin the colors that and the name was a dead give away

Re: Misconceptions we have made or heard of

PostPosted: Mon Sep 05, 2011 12:55 pm
by Agent X
as a child my only exposure to Transformers was The Movie until Beast Wars.

as such the first few times i watched The Movie, I thought Optimus Prime was a bad guy because he had a mask

Re: Misconceptions we have made or heard of

PostPosted: Mon Sep 05, 2011 1:26 pm
by Sabrblade
I remember hearing about one made by the fandom back in 2000. When the toy of Car Robots Fire Convoy (Japanese RiD Optimus Prime) was saying "Cybertron Senshi, Transform!" ("Autobot Warriors, Transform!"), people thought it was instead saying, "Hyper Goldfish! GOLFBALL!" :lol: :lol: :lol:

Re: Misconceptions we have made or heard of

PostPosted: Mon Sep 05, 2011 1:39 pm
by ironrod prime
theres the frenzy rumble mix up

and untill dotm alot of people believed baracade to be dead

and then theres the mystery of what happend to richies brother chuck oh wait sorry wrong show