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Re: transfomers g1 season 3 episode list

PostPosted: Sat Dec 31, 2011 12:49 am
by Sabrblade
Slone1993 wrote:honestly i could search the web but i will never find an actual seasdon 3 episode list the list of episodes through out that season is unknown but how would you rearrange those episodes.
In another thread here, I made a list for someone who's watching G1 season 3 for the first time of an order that would work for watching the episodes.

First, I used production order as a base, and then put certain episodes in an appropriate order to make them flow in a coherent sense. though, one of the episodes, "Dark Awakening" has two different endings, so I put it on the list twice, as each ending lets it take place in two different spots.
Sabrblade wrote:- Five Faces of Darkness, Parts 1-5
- The Killing Jar
- Chaos
- Dark Awakening (first ending version)

- Forever is a Long Time Coming

- Fight or Flee
- Thief in the Night
- Starscream's Ghost
- Ghost in the Machine

- Surprise Party
- Madman's Paradise
- Nightmare Planet

- Webworld
- Carnage in C-Minor

- The Big Broadcast of 2006
- The Quintesson Journal

- The Ultimate Weapon

- The Dweller in the Depths
- Only Human
- Grimlock's New Brain
- Money Is Everything
- Call of the Primitives
- The Face of the Nijika
- The Burden Hardest to Bear

- Dark Awakening (second ending version)
- The Return of Optimus Prime, Parts 1-2

Re: transfomers g1 season 3 episode list

PostPosted: Sat Dec 31, 2011 12:14 pm
by Slone1993
well i own the matrix of leadership boxset and there is a 56 page booklet of all the episodes 1-98 in season 3 this is the boradcast order

66-70 Five Faces Of Darkness
71. The Killing Jar
72. Chaos
73. Dark awakening
74. Starscreams Ghost
75. Theif In The Night
76. Forever is a long time coming
77. Surprise Party
78. Madmans Paradise
79. Carnage In C Minor
80. Fight Or Flee
81. Web World
82. Ghost in the Machine
83. The Dweller In The Depths
84. Nightmare Planet
85. The Ultimate Weapon
86. The Quintesson Journal
87. Big Broadcast of 2006
88. Only Human
89. Grimlocks New Brain
90. Money is everything
91. Call Of the Primitives
92. The burden Hardest to bear
93. Face of the Nijika
94-95 The Return Of Optimus Prime Part 1 and 2



But they edited the episodes to fit the story line better dark awakening was going by the 2nd version in this so dark awakening is at episodes 93 now. theif in the night comes at episode 73 and fight or flee comes at episode 74. starscreams ghost is at episode 75. Web world is at episode 80 ghost in the machine at 81 all the episodes up to 93 was moved back
so this is what it looks like
66-70 five faces of darkness
71 killing har
72 chaos
73 thief in the night
74 fight or flee
75 starscreams ghost
76 forever is a long time coming
77 surprise party
78 madmans paradise
79 carnage in c minor
80 web world
81 ghost in the machine
82 dwller in the depths
83 nightmare planet
84 the ultimate weapon
85 big broadcast of 2006
86 the quintesson journal
87 only human
88 grimlocks new brain
89 money is everything
90 call of the primitives
91 burden hardest to bear
92 the face of nijika
93 dark awakening
94-95 the return of optimus prime part 1 and 2

Re: transfomers g1 season 3 episode list

PostPosted: Sat Dec 31, 2011 12:31 pm
by Sabrblade
I own that set too, but they did not reorder any episodes out of broadcast order on the discs. They reordered them on the labels and booklets, but the discs themselves have them placed in broadcast order, which messes up some of the story.

Though, I went with production order as a base since, well, that's the order they were made in. but, as most of the episodes are just filler, either order works as long as the few story-driven episodes are put in their proper arrangements.

Re: transfomers g1 season 3 episode list

PostPosted: Thu Jan 19, 2012 1:36 am
by CYLON (13)
I have some questions:

I saw the episode, "Starscream's Ghost", for the first time tonight. At the end of the episode his ghost seemingly inhabits a second Decepticon body. Does this come into play again or is it forgotten entirely?

Also, does the entire season (3) take place in space? Why? I guess I missed something?

Final one:

I was told the Beast Wars began after the Unicron was beaten in the animated movie, what happened to the Autobots? If the Predacons have existed for so long, what happened to the 'Cons? When did the Maximals come into existence? In the Beast Wars timeline, are all Transformers animals? I know Megatron was pushing for all organic TF's to be turned into pure mechanical robots...what's the deal?

Re: transfomers g1 season 3 episode list

PostPosted: Thu Jan 19, 2012 11:56 am
by Sabrblade
CYLON (13) wrote:I have some questions:

I saw the episode, "Starscream's Ghost", for the first time tonight. At the end of the episode his ghost seemingly inhabits a second Decepticon body. Does this come into play again or is it forgotten entirely?
Watch "Ghost in the Machine" immediately after "Starscream's Ghost", as it follows on directly from it.

Though, I hope you saw both "Fight or Flee" and "Thief in the Night" before watching "Starscream's Ghost", as they both take place before it in that order.

CYLON (13) wrote:Also, does the entire season (3) take place in space? Why? I guess I missed something?
You saw the 1986 movie, right? It shifted the setting from stay on just Earth and Cybertron to reaching space itself. The five-part opener of season 3 "Five Faces of Darkness" follows on from the movie, keeping its setting extending beyond Cybertron and Earth. There are some episodes still set on Earth, but not all.

CYLON (13) wrote:Final one:

I was told the Beast Wars began after the Unicron was beaten in the animated movie,
Wwwwwwwwwwhat? That makes no sense. How could Beast Wars start right after the movie if season 3's still going on? Whoever told you that got their facts confused.

CYLON (13) wrote:what happened to the Autobots? If the Predacons have existed for so long, what happened to the 'Cons? When did the Maximals come into existence? In the Beast Wars timeline, are all Transformers animals? I know Megatron was pushing for all organic TF's to be turned into pure mechanical robots...what's the deal?
You don't watch many of the shows, do you? :|

The cast of Beast Wars come from 300 years into the future. The Maximals and Predacons are the descendants of the Autobots and Decepticons, after having undergone the Great Upgrade into Maximals and Predacons, reducing their sizes to emphasize fuel efficiency.

No, not everyone's an animal. Only those who went with Optimus Primal and Megatron to Prehistoric Earth to take part in the Beast Wars. Or, those Maximals who took part in the Sparkwar in Beast Machines. Cybertron was still popuated by vehicular TFs, just ones at a smaller size than Autobots and Decepticons.

Megatron was pushing to remove any traces of organic nature from Cybertron. It was only the Maximals under Optimus Primal's command who had any organic features in them. Before they came along, all Megatron did was freeze up the transformation ability of all the Maximals on Cybertron, keeping them stuck in one mode, and then hunted them down with his Vehicon drone army to extract their sparks. But that business wasn't about him getting rid organic matter, just him trying to take over. What did involve organic material that he tried to get rid of (other than Optimus Primal's Maximals) were aspects of Cybertron itself, which had some organic planetary layers down below, as well as having an organic planetary core.

Re: transfomers g1 season 3 episode list

PostPosted: Sat Jan 21, 2012 4:17 pm
by CYLON (13)
:lol: I do watch the shows!
I'm just not an expert...yet!

The part about the Beast Wars starting after Unicron's defeat...misinformation.

The Maximal/Predacon question came about because of the above AND my first time viewings of G1 S3 left me wondering what was going on with the whole history of the the Beasts...just got my complete dvd collection, y'know. ;)

Thanks so much for clearing all that up for me, though.

Oh, yeah! The G1 S3 episodes...I'm watching them on The Hub, I don't think they're being run in order. They aired the one where Optimus is revived in the Autobot tomb; the previews for the next show said that story would continue...if I'm remembering correctly they aired a different one. And I didn't catch the pre-"Starscream's Ghost" episodes either. :(
I'm having a blast watching them for the first time, even though I may miss one here or there.
Maybe I should get the boxset? I think it's pretty inexpensive on Amazon, currently. And for most orders they do free shipping on orders of at least $25!

Re: transfomers g1 season 3 episode list

PostPosted: Sat Jan 21, 2012 4:25 pm
by Sabrblade
CYLON (13) wrote:Oh, yeah! The G1 S3 episodes...I'm watching them on The Hub, I don't think they're being run in order. They aired the one where Optimus is revived in the Autobot tomb; the previews for the next show said that story would continue...if I'm remembering correctly they aired a different one. And I didn't catch the pre-"Starscream's Ghost" episodes either. :(
I'm having a blast watching them for the first time, even though I may miss one here or there.
Maybe I should get the boxset? I think it's pretty inexpensive on Amazon, currently. And for most orders they do free shipping on orders of at least $25!
Yeah, none of the DVD releases have ever really put the episodes in a good watchable order (Kid Rhino came close, but it also got some weirdness in its episode order). The list I posted here was written in an attempt to put the episodes in a decent and coherent viewing order.

As for what they;re playing on the Hub, I think they're airing them in the order they were put on the Shout! Factory DVDs (which used the original 1986 broadcast order).

Re: transfomers g1 season 3 episode list

PostPosted: Sat Jan 21, 2012 10:10 pm
by CYLON (13)
In order or out, I think the episodes are pretty great.
I don't remember who it was on this board that said S3 had some of the best episodes of the series.

Re: transfomers g1 season 3 episode list

PostPosted: Sat Jan 21, 2012 10:19 pm
by Sabrblade
CYLON (13) wrote:In order or out, I think the episodes are pretty great.
I don't remember who it was on this board that said S3 had some of the best episodes of the series.
I know I've said that season 3 had some the best, and some of the worst, episodes of G1. :mrgreen:

Re: transfomers g1 season 3 episode list

PostPosted: Sun Jan 22, 2012 12:26 am
by ironrod prime
Sabrblade wrote:
CYLON (13) wrote:In order or out, I think the episodes are pretty great.
I don't remember who it was on this board that said S3 had some of the best episodes of the series.
I know I've said that season 3 had some the best, and some of the worst, episodes of G1. :mrgreen:

case in point call of the primitives :grin: and well i'll let this guy explain

http://tjomega.blogspot.com/2011/10/tj-tv-transformers-g1.html