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Re: original thirteen

Postby Sabrblade » Thu Apr 07, 2011 11:16 am

Agent X wrote:
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Agent X wrote:maybe Shattered Glass Alpha Trion is actualy The Fallen useing the guise of a Alpha Trion for his own reasons and to cast doubt about Alpha Trion being on of the 13
I dunno. Before the whole retcon of A3 being a 13er, SG Alpha Trion seemed like he was the genuine Alpha Trion of the Shattered Glass world, as he had some very Alpha Trion-like qualities, such as his being able to control the Shattered Glass version of Vector Sigma, Omega Terminus.


we could also look at SG Alpha Trion as a future version of Alpha Trion where he has become corruptted as The Fallen or carrying out some unknown order from Primus.
Well, think about this. Being a Mult Sing, while there would one Alpha Trion in a spiritual sense, he exists in multiple places all at the same time. One Alpha Trion isn't older than another, because they're all the same guy at the same exact moments in time. If one physical self were to be killed, the others wouldn't die because the single individual exists on a higher plane than that of ordinary beings.

To me, what you're suggesting sounds like SG A3 could be easily killed if one of his "younger" selves were killed, which wouldn't be the case since the SG universe isn't any older than any other world, and SG A3 (now being a Mult Sing) is the same age as his other physical counterparts.
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Re: original thirteen

Postby Blademan91 » Thu Apr 07, 2011 12:47 pm

what if primus set up A3 with the same power he has. The primes are mult sings but they go from one universe to another, Where as primus exists in all universes at once. Maybe primus created A3 the same way
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Re: original thirteen

Postby Sabrblade » Thu Apr 07, 2011 12:50 pm

Blademan91 wrote:what if primus set up A3 with the same power he has. The primes are mult sings but they go from one universe to another, Where as primus exists in all universes at once. Maybe primus created A3 the same way
SG A3 is still evil when he's in he TransTech universe, and he was there a long time.
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Re: original thirteen

Postby Blademan91 » Thu Apr 07, 2011 12:56 pm

Im not talking about personality, just him existing
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Re: original thirteen

Postby Agent X » Thu Apr 07, 2011 11:34 pm

clearly the answer must be that the other unknown menders of the 13 are the other Alpha Trions, which beings the total of 13 known
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Re: original thirteen

Postby ironrod prime » Fri Apr 08, 2011 8:37 pm

Agent X wrote:clearly the answer must be that the other unknown menders of the 13 are the other Alpha Trions, which beings the total of 13 known


but theres only 1 a3 and he's the same(aside from sg) in every universe
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Re: original thirteen

Postby lioconvoy » Sat Apr 09, 2011 9:10 am

i am personally going with sg alpha trion stole the name for himself and redesigned himself in the image sort of how megatron took megatronus's name

on a slightly different note, do any of you guys know where i can get my hands on the last 2 componants of nexus prime?
i have breakaway, landquake and heatwave but i cant for the life of me get my hands on the other 2.
on that note, i would have expected at least 1 componant of nexus to be a member of the constructicon maximus molds seeing as he is the guardian of energon.

also does the tfcc operate world wide or can i get membership in the uk? it's getting quite hard to hunt down some of the figures
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Re: original thirteen

Postby Sabrblade » Sat Apr 09, 2011 10:35 am

lioconvoy wrote:i am personally going with sg alpha trion stole the name for himself and redesigned himself in the image sort of how megatron took megatronus's name
I think that's a great way to handle his situation. Him being a false doppelganger would be a very good way to look at him.

lioconvoy wrote:on a slightly different note, do any of you guys know where i can get my hands on the last 2 componants of nexus prime?
i have breakaway, landquake and heatwave but i cant for the life of me get my hands on the other 2.
Unfortunately, those two are sold out at the Club store. Your best bet would be to search online or hope to find them in the dealer room at a convention like BotCon, TFCon, or (on your side of the pond) Auto Assembly.

lioconvoy wrote:on that note, i would have expected at least 1 componant of nexus to be a member of the constructicon maximus molds seeing as he is the guardian of energon.
Erm, I don't follow. What's the connection between the Constructicons and guarding energon? :? :?:

lioconvoy wrote:also does the tfcc operate world wide or can i get membership in the uk? it's getting quite hard to hunt down some of the figures
Yes, you can join from outside North America, but it costs more to join via the International membership.

Here are the membership prices:
THIRD CLASS MAIL TRANSFORMERS COLLECTORS CLUB $40.00 per year (Includes 6 magazines coming in Feb., April, June, August, Oct., Dec.)
FIRST CLASS MAIL TRANSFORMERS COLLECTORS CLUB $62.00 per year (Includes 6 magazines coming in Feb., April, June, August, Oct., Dec.)
CANADIAN FIRST CLASS MAIL TRANSFORMERS COLLECTORS CLUB $58.00 per year (Includes 6 magazines coming in Feb., April, June, August, Oct., Dec.)
FOREIGN/OTHER COUNTRIES AIR MAIL TRANSFORMERS COLLECTORS CLUB $78.00 per year (Includes 6 magazines coming in Feb., April, June, August, Oct., Dec.)
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Re: original thirteen

Postby lioconvoy » Sat Apr 09, 2011 12:01 pm

my thery is that the constructicons as nexus is the guardian of rarified energon. my train of thaut goes like this
guardian of energon
dig for energon
using the constructicon mold for a limb of nexus

flimzy i know but my brain isn't working that well atm lol
what site can i go to in order to apply for tfcc?
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Re: original thirteen

Postby Sabrblade » Sat Apr 09, 2011 12:16 pm

lioconvoy wrote:my thery is that the constructicons as nexus is the guardian of rarified energon. my train of thaut goes like this
guardian of energon
dig for energon
using the constructicon mold for a limb of nexus
Well, Nexus doesn't dig for it. The Rarefied Energon that he guards is already in pools hidden away somewhere.
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Its main website, http://www.transformersclub.com.
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